Remix competitions – Why bother?

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  1. Ed says:

    I’m gonna disagree with you here Paul..

    In the case of AVH “Witch Dokta’ there’s no real costs to recoup. It’s an age old track that has made enough money to cover this already. The re-release and related competition with parts is purely to see just how long the legs are. I won’t focus on this track too much. I’ve never liked it or understood exactly what made people so fond of it. Even if the stems were free and the prize was amazing, I couldn’t put up with working with it. Just one of those songs. But moving on.

    I generally don’t agree with this idea. It reminds me too much of what happened with DJ-ing. We’ve gone from Renta-crowd DJ’s to Rented Producer/Remixers. It’s music by numbers. We couldn’t get a good mix that sold from the first bunch, so we’ll offer the parts out. But to make sure we make some money, we’ll charge for the parts.. When money becomes involved, it shows a lack of willingness to allow absolutely everyone access and participate, in order to find the best talent or mixes. Charging will put a lot of people off. Maybe one person who had a killer idea, but like me won’t do it because they disagree with the concept of charging for parts in a competition. If you’re confident that the track has potential for good remixes that could be successful and make money, why charge people for parts. I’d say this is a valid point. Most of the tracks I’ve heard parts for have been weak in at least some aspect. Badly recorded, produced or just a not a strong song idea to begin with.

    Charging for parts in a sample pack with loose/free copyrights is acceptable, because the focus is on incorporating these into your own ideas. Charging for entry into a competition is also fine. It’s this bit in the middle that bothers me. It’d be like asking X Factor contestants to pay for their audition. You’d get rid of most of the rubbish, but also alienate a lot of talent. When all is said and done you end up with a winner, but you’re not sure they’re the best because not everyone that thought about entering did.

    I think the best approach to this I’ve ever seen was on ATFC’s old OnePhatDeeva label. They tried and nearly pleased everyone. They’d charge £6/7 for a vinyl release with the strongest mixes on, but included in this was a CD with digital versions, extra mixes and song parts. Vinylists were happy, CDJ-ers were happy and wannabe producers were happy. The problem was slow vinyl sales. But it’s something I’d like to see with digital single releases. Buy the song, get the parts that made it.

      

    • Paul Dakeyne says:

      Some valid points there Ed and I respect your opinions as always.

      This blog and my opinion on the subject matter is 100% focused on novice DJ’s, budding producers who unfortunately in this day and age are competing with not a handful of (shall we say) competitors) but with tens of thousands. In a nutshell, the cost of these remix parts is a drop in the ocean really, realistically they’re not even equal to a pack of fags or maybe a pint or a premium lager. I reckon the ROI in self-promotion, YouTube coverage (if possible), MP3 promo mileage and social media marketing plus the actual practice/experience gained, is worth a few quid.
      Best
      Paul

        

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